On 1 Mar, 17:46, "Paul Scott" wrote:
MIG wrote:
On 28 Feb, 19:51, "Peter Smyth" wrote:
"Paul Scott" wrote in message

The timetables for Mon 24th May are starting to creep into the
various journey planners now.
A search for times from Sydenham to New Cross gate on SN's website
produced
these, continuing to either London Bridge (SN) or Dalston Junction
(LO):

Typical Peak Hour:

08:01 08:11 LO starts Crystal Palace
08:06 08:16 LO starts West Croydon
08:09 08:19 SN starts ??? via Norwood Jn
08:14 08:24 LO starts Crystal Palace
08:18 08:28 SN starts Victoria, via Crystal Palace
08:22 08:32 LO starts West Croydon
08:28 08:38 SN starts ??? via Crystal Palace
08:31 08:41 LO starts Crystal Palace
08:36 08:46 LO starts West Croydon
08:39 08:49 SN starts ??? via Norwood Jn
08:44 08:54 LO starts Crystal Palace
08:47 08:57 SN starts ??? via Crystal Palace
08:51 09:01 LO starts West Croydon
08:54 09:04 SN starts Victoria, via Crystal Palace
The current 2tph London Bridge - Sutton is replaced by a combination
of the 4tph LO Dalston Jn - West Croydon and extending the current
2tph London Victoria - West Croydon (via Crystal Palace) to Sutton.
So if you can't get from London Bridge by a short route to West
Croydon any more, how is the connection at Norwood Junction to the
trains from Victoria?

I was imagining London Bridge to Sutton trains moving to the fast
tracks, but that doesn't seem to be what's happening.

They are, but in the peaks only, AFAICT - I didn't reproduce anything like
the entire timetable, that bit above is JUST the Sydenham to New Cross Gate
section all station stoppers. *There are also two tph from Sutton calling
all stations to West Croydon then *Norwood Junction and London Bridge, and
there are alternate trains from West Croydon only running via Streatham and
Tulse Hill to London Bridge. *But only in the morning peak, last departure
from WC at 0844. PM peak has about 2 tph of the reverse fast service.

Right, I wasn't going completely mad then. I wonder if the Tulse Hill
route would take so long that a connection at Norwood Junction would
be better for West Croydon.


Also, IIRC one of your earlier questions was about southbound travel from
NXG - the Caterham trains still call half hourly in the contra-peak
directions, and both ways offpeak, but *they run fast from Norwood Jn in the
peak flow direction.

Paul S

Is that NXG or all the stations? It's just that NXG has platforms on
the fast tracks, but the rest before Norwood Junction don't.