On 28 Apr, 17:55, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, MIG wrote:
On 28 Apr, 14:19, Ernesto wrote:
On 28/04/2010 09:53, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
*wrote:
Its about time they changed the disabled symbol. Its begnining to
look a bit silly plastered over so many stations. Why can't they
just have a little icon similar to the nation rail sign? Just
because someones in a wheelchair doesn't mean they're blind.

It's only the same size as the blob for an interchange station, and
indicates something about what kind of station it is. *The NR symbol

So you end up with a blob on stations that are not interchange
stations. Not really a great idea. Having a small chair symbol at the
side would be just as effective and stop the map looking its suffering
from smallpox.

If you put a small chair by a station, people may be fooled into
thinking they can exit to street from all lines passing thru that
station

So put the wheelchairs right by whichever platform group icons are
step-free. So at KX, there would be icons by the Vic/Picc and Neapolitan
discs, but not by the Northern one. This is exactly the same level of
granularity as at present, where those discs have a bright blue
wheelchairman on top of them, just less obtrusive. The only place where
this would be awkward is at Hammersmith, which is currently drawn as three
discs in a row, all step-free; the central disc is completely boxed in by
lines and discs, so there's nowhere to put a wheelchair icon. In that
case, i'd happily see it go in the middle of a normal interchange disc as
a special case.

For stations which don't have discs, the icon would just go by the tick on
the line, but for these stations, the question is moot anyway, as there is
only one set of platforms (apart from Gloucester Road, but then that's not
step-free anyway).

This would be a deviation from the current model of putting the icons by
the name, but less of a deviation than using the huge blue wheelchairman.

I don't know whether the symbol is the right size, but it seems to me
that there is a logic to clearly showing stations where you can connect
to something else and map out a route between them.

The wheelchair blobs are an indication where there is an "interchange"
between the world and the system for the benefit of those for whom the
rest of the network doesn't allow it.

Interesting idea. It makes that clear to people who need step-free routes,
at the expense of making it less clear which stations are line-line
interchanges to everyone.

So maybe the blobs are big, but it's much clearer for route-planning to
mark out the station types clearly than to have other symbols floating
off them. *Symbols floating off really are clutter.

They are far less cluttersome than the blue discs.


No one seems to be complaining that every station but one on the
Victoria Line has a disc of exactly the same size though.