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Old May 17th 10, 10:01 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Final design for the "New Bus for London" (aka BorisBus / newRoutemaster) unveiled

On 17 May, 22:30, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2010 14:19:42 -0700 (PDT), MIG

wrote:
On 17 May, 17:23, Mizter T wrote:
(I think it was Tom Barry - well it must have been - who attempted to
work out the total road space that would be used by the double-deckers
that replaced the bendies on route 38 - IIRC his calculation was that
they would actually occupy *more* road space.)


But the total area taken up by lots of small vehicles doesn't cause
anything like the havoc caused by one very long one. *If it did, you'd
have one bus a mile long causing less problems than 176 double
deckers.


So speaks the voice of someone who hasn't encountered a swarm of public
light buses in Hong Kong blocking the highway. *There are other places
that have similar schemes with "free enterprise" midibuses or shared
taxis. *Chile and Moscow spring to mind as does somewhere in Asia.


Unless that's the only alternative to bendy buses in London I don't
see the relevance.

I am not actually claiming that three double deckers are going to be
replaced by single deckers a mile long, but it's just as unlikely.

I was assuming some kind of equivalence in capacity, not one bendy
replaced by a whole swarm.



The issues around blocking crossings and not being able to move across
box junctions etc etc are because all the length is in a single
vehicle.


We've done this to death but inconsiderate drivers of vehicles of any
length can block box junctions if they see fit - double deck buses
included.


We certainly have, and considerate drivers are more likely to make a
mistake if their vehicle is very long, and also have to hold back when
smaller vehicles could have gone ahead. (They are mostly rescued by
bus lanes, but not everywhere.)