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Old July 3rd 10, 10:48 AM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
Mizter T Mizter T is offline
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Default First ITSO gateline?


On Jul 3, 9:55*am, "Richard J." wrote:

Mizter T wrote on 03 July 2010 07:58:32 ...

On Jul 3, 7:34 am, Paul *wrote:


Andrew wrote:
Oyster was meant to be updated to ITSO technology but it doesn't appear
to be happening. I believe its a similar situation at SWT.


I think that the basics for Oyster/ITSO compatibility must be in place,
because all Freedom passes issued in the last few months speak ITSO as
well as Oyster (although I imagine that the Oyster implementation is
quite basic on Freedom cards).


Though the Freedom Pass change need not necessarily have meant any
changes on the validator side of things - the new Freedom Pass being a
combined MiFare (Oyster) and ITSO standard card.


According to the London Councils site, TfL did have to make changes to
their gates and reader network to handle the new cards.


Yes, I recall that. I wonder whether those changes may have actually
been about equipping the gates to handle the new "MiFare DESFire" card
type that TfL is now using for Oyster cards (as opposed to the older
"MiFare Classic") - presumably the Oyster side of the Freedom Pass (as
opposed to the ITSO side) is a DESFire card, IYSWIM.