On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 21:46:54 +0100, "
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On 09/07/2010 18:45, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 23:20:03 -0700 (PDT), MIG
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On 8 July, 23:29,
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On 08/07/2010 13:24, Bruce wrote:



On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:46:34 +0100, "Recliner"
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"Matt wrote in message

I've never understood why they didn't grab some 1983 stock when they
had the chance. Decades newer than what they've got and the single
leaf doors wouldn't have been a problem on the IOW.

Presumably because at the time, the (at the time, recently
refurbished) stock was still fit for purpose, and replacing it with
the ex-Jubilee stock would have been a false economy. Perhaps if
there were six or seven units of 83 stock available now, then it might
be worthwhile, but with 69 stock becoming available soon, I think
there's a strong possibility that some of them will head to Grockle-
Central, rather than straight to CF Booth's tin-can factory.

I presume you mean 1967 stock. I assume that driving it in purely
manual mode in short formation won't be a problem?

The stock earmarked for the Island Line is either 1972 or 1973 stock.
The 1972 stock is almost identical to 1967 stock but has manual diving
controls.

67 stock also has manual controls. But it seems that they are set up
similar to the Berlin U-Bahn in that the controller and the deadman
feature are separate, whereas they are integrated into one on all other
underground stock here.

In A stock isn't there still a separation between handle/controller
and brake, integrated from C69 stock onwards? Not the same separation
you mean, I guess, but I'd have thought more likely to be how 1967
stock is, given that that's how it was on LU.

http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/s...bsurfaceStock/
has a photo of an A stock driver's desk if anyone cares to analyse it.

Anything for the 67s?

Not showing the cab (go down to the bottom and select "Underground
trains" to get yourself in the right starting position). There is one
elsewhere :-
http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/67...b%20Photos.htm
which seems to be a well-used London Transport Museum photo.
(the only image supplied by Google for +"1967 stock" +cab which
interestingly offers a scantily-clad young lady riding a bomb among
its selection). Possibly there are more in the LTM collection if those
are still available on-line.