On 21 July, 15:29, David Walters wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:48:11 +0000 (UTC), wrote:
You can't get a penalty fare if you have a valid oyster card that has
enough money to pay a max fare on it. Unless an oyster is now only valid
if its touched in

If you don't have a seasion ticket that is the case. From the Conditions
of Carriage:

"If you do not touch in at the start and touch out at the end of your
journey, you may be charged more than the advertised Oyster single fare
and this journey will not be included in any daily price capping. You
may also be liable to a Penalty fare or you may be prosecuted. *"

David

Where does a "journey" start? Less of an issue now with PAYG on NR,
but in the past it came up with people travelling on Oyster seasons
from, say, Slade green and changing to the DLR at Greenwich, with an
zone 1 - 6 season on Oyster, and all that silliness about having to
touch in on the DLR even with a season, "at the start of your journey".