On Aug 22, 1:24*pm, Josie wrote:
On 22/08/2010 13:21, Andy wrote:





On Aug 22, 1:21 am, *wrote:
On 14/08/2010 18:28, Mizter T wrote:

However it won't open any Zone 1 gate - though if you're in the system
and want to get out, then I understand you'll be let out without any
problems (in zone 1 at least), though the same ticket can't be used to
get back into the Underground system (i.e. there's no Break of Journey
allowed for the cross-London Underground leg of the journey).

This is what I thought, but the chap on the gateline at Russell Square
tried to refuse me exit on a Manchester-Guildford ticket recently - he
said that a point-to-point NR ticket was only valid for LU transfer and
not to leave the station. I explained that I was allowed to leave the
station but that I wouldn't be able to get back in, but he insisted that
I needed to buy a new ticket. I asked to talk to someone from the ticket
office (which was closed), so he went and spoke to a nearby Revenue
officer and came back saying that it was "a grey area" and he'd let me
out this time but only because the ticket office was closed. Hmph.

The National Rail website clearly states that the tickets can only be
used at the stations in the list he

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_...crossing_londo...

So technically a through National Rail ticket isn't valid at Russell
Square. Whether you get let through the barriers, other than at these
'cross-London' stations, is more a matter of luck than right.

*From that website:

"You can ‘break your transfer journey' and leave the Underground at any
intermediate station, e.g. if you travelling between Victoria and Euston
you can exit at Oxford Circus. However, if you subsequently wish to
continue your journey by Underground you will have to purchase another
ticket."


I missed that bit, but when did that change to the rules come in? The
cross-London component of the fare is less than the normal LU single
and there is no statement about these tickets in the TfL conditions of
carriage. The national rail conditions of carriage (http://
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/system...misc/NRCOC.pdf,
condition 16) state that break of journey isn't allowed on LU
(although the wording is, as always, a bit ambiguous only talking
about entitlement to break and resume a journey not exit and buy a new
ticket).