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Old September 29th 10, 07:15 PM posted to uk.transport.london
John Salmon[_4_] John Salmon[_4_] is offline
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Default Oyster PAYG more expensive than paper tickets?


"Barry Salter" wrote in message
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On 29/09/2010 19:20, John Salmon wrote:
I have a registered Oyster card with Senior Railcard loaded, so within
zones 1-6, my off-peak daily travel should be capped at £5.00. An
off-peak day return from Upminster to Ockendon with railcard discount,
which I could presumably have bought at Fenchurch Street, costs £2.70 -
I can't see anything indicating that minimum fares or time restrictions
would prevent the use of such a ticket at the weekend.

On a recent Saturday, I made four journeys using Oyster PAYG. The first
two may have been linked by an OSI. I don't think I had any time-out
issues. I started the day with a balance of £14.06 and ended it with
£4.66, so I was charged a total of £9.40. Paper tickets would have cost
£5.00 + £2.70, a total of £7.70. Why was I charged £1.70 more? Is it
anything to do with the anytime day return (undiscounted) from Upminster
to Ockendon being £4.40?

Details, which I don't fully understand (even individually):
Victoria - Tower Hill: In £4.20, out -£2.40, so charge was £1.80.
Fenchurch Street - Ockendon: In £2.40, out -£0.45, so charge was £1.95.


Tower Hill - Fenchurch Street is an OSI with a 40 minute time limit, so
that would've been treated as a through journey from Victoria to Ockendon,
which the TfL Fares Finder says should be charged at £5.70 with a
Railcard.

Ockendon - Fenchurch Street: In £5.60, out -£1.70, so charge was £3.90.
Fenchurch Street - Liverpool Street on foot!
Liverpool Street - King's Cross St. Pancras: In £4.20, out -£2.45, so
charge was £1.75.


Fenchurch Street - Liverpool Street is another OSI, again with a 40 minute
limit. And once again, this comes up with a £5.70 charge for the through
journey.

Looking at the TfL site, the daily cap for 1-9 + Grays with a Railcard is
£9.50, the same as for 1-9 + Watford Junction.

Having said that, the same page then goes onto say that an Oyster Single
for 1-9 + Grays is £3.75 Off-Peak with a Railcard!


Thanks. Part of the problem here seems to be that the caps involving the c2c
stations within the Oyster area include zones 7, 8 and 9 even though they
are totally unrelated to c2c.