On Sep 28, 12:48*pm, tedjrr wrote:
On 28 Sep, 09:01, David Hansen wrote

That would be a problem, though not a great one.
Two of the larger exceptions down south to up and down referring to
London are South Wales, where up is up the valley, and former
Midland Railway lines where up is towards Derby.

Thanks, that's very interesting. *Did the Midland definitions of up/
down remain after grouping, indeed if you travel from Trent jk to
StPan, are you still heading down? *Wasn't the former MS&L line was
"up" into Cleethorpes.

Rgds/Ted
I was told that 'up' direction was defined as being the direction
towards the HQ of the founding railway company. Many happened to be in
London, but hence the example of Derby etc.