On Nov 28, 11:50*am, Roland Perry wrote:

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at 02:34:55 on Sun, 28 Nov 2010, MIG
remarked:

I'd suggest taking Thameslink from London Bridge to St Pancras, then
walking. The exit at St Pancras is on the west side of the station and
there's a back-street route to Euston.

The first Thameslink train to do the London Bridge route is due at St
Pancras at 0932 I think, so even if it's on time, that's cutting it
fine for the 1007 from Euston. *I wouldn't fancy depending on that.

I didn't realise the earliest train was that late in the morning - I'm
sure I've done Gatwick-London Bridge (then change for Waterloo East)
earlier than that.

There are trains earlier in the morning - the last is d0724, a0739 -
the problem is that basically there's no space for Thameslink through
London Bridge during the height of the morning peak (TL trains up from
Brighton are routed through Tulse Hill, Herne Hill, E&C with some
making a stop at one or more of said stations).


The walk is half a mile (9 minutes), as the crow flies it's the same as
the entire length of the St Pancras double-shed. http://goo.gl/maps/Nx3i

Absolutely agreed it's not far at all - I've come off Eurostar and v.
easily made a connection out of Euston (on a separate AP ticket) with
something like 40 mins gap in the past - the issue is (a) if the TL
train is running late, and (b) if it's actually going to be possible
to get on the TL train - I dare say it could be absolutely heaving.


Looking at it from another angle: if the recommended minimum connection
between SPILL and Euston is 35 minutes or less, if the Thameslink
train's delayed, would they be permitted to travel on the next Liverpool
even with the AP ticket?

Regardless of the min connection time issues, TOCs might be being
flexible about such things given the strike, I dunno.

How does one find out about minimum connection times between London
termini? I can't find any mention of it in the National Rail
Timetable, nor on the NRE website.

Also, I dare say the passenger in question may only have a ticket from
Euston to Liverpool, in which case one is into the slightly hazy
territory of whether or not a journey involving multiple tickets still
constitutes one journey as per the NR CoC (and hence connections
should be honoured if the requisite time for transfers is adhered to).