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Old November 28th 10, 07:31 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
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Default Tube Strike - Sun 28 (evening of) and Mon 29 Nov (all day)

On Nov 28, 11:19*am, Mizter T wrote:
On Nov 28, 10:10*am, Paul Corfield wrote:





On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:05:29 -0800 (PST), Mizter T
wrote:


On Nov 27, 11:44 pm, John Ray
wrote:
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A friend has to travel from Plumstead to Euston on Monday morning; she
has an Apex ticket for the 1007 to Liverpool Lime Street, so does not
want to miss that train.


It seems that she can take a Southeastern train to London Bridge and try
her luck on the Northern Line, or alternatively take a Southeastern
train to Charing Cross and go for the 91 bus. Does anybody have any
suggestions, please, as to the best course, and how much time should she
allow for the connection from London Bridge or Charing Cross to Euston?


It's just over one and a half miles from Charing X to Euston, so
walking isn't an outlandish option - it'd take half hour or so,
dependent on pace - see walkit.com/london (usual caveats about those
with impaired mobility apply). It's what I'd do.


Other bus alternatives are the 59, 68 or 168 from Waterloo to Euston.
The 91 might possibly be advantageous however as it starts at
Trafalgar Square/ Charing Cross, so there could be a better chance of
getting on it, I'm not sure though. The timing isn't great - she'll be
making this trip in the rush hour, and during strikes the buses are in
heavy demand at the London termini stations.


Others will (/may) be better able to advise about what Tube services
might be running, and to what extent, though I don't think anyone inc.
LU really know what will happen until the day, bearing in mind that
the picture can alter at shift change times too - all depends who and
how many staff turn up.


The Northern Line has tended to run an OK service on strike days but it
will be busy at either Charing Cross, Waterloo or London Bridge. *I am
not sure I would necessarily rely on it.


I basically concur with the advice to head for Charing Cross and then
assess options from there. Walking is certainly viable unless the person
is laden with luggage when it may well be a tedious chore.


Charing Cross walking map here


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...lking-sept2010...


To add to the options I would say that the 24 and 29 from opposite South
Africa House at Trafalgar Square (3-4 mins from the front of Charing
Cross Stn) are an additional option to get as far as Warren Street from
where Euston is eminently walkable. The 29 starts at Trafalgar Square
and is a bendy bus so there is a decent chance of getting on. *The 24 is
busier but nonetheless offers an option too.


Not sure if you friend has an Oyster card but if not they will need to
buy their bus ticket from a machine at the stop before boarding any bus
in the Central area - fare is 2 cash.


Spider map for Charing Cross including bus stop locations here


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...lking-sept2010...


Stop F for the 91
Stop C for the 24 and 29.


^^^ That's a link to the CX walking map again (very easily done!) -
here's the bus spider map for CX:http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/gettingaro...charingcrossqu...

Re the bus fare - this got brought up recently on uk.railway - my
reckoning is that *if* a National Rail ticket includes a cross-London
tube transfer (i.e. it features the '+' symbol/ Maltese cross in the
route field) then on a Tube strike day it should be valid for travel
on the buses in order to make the transfer between the relevant London
termini.

However in this case it's entirely dependent on whether or not the
ticket is for travel from Plumstead, in which case cross-London
transfer would be included, or from Euston, in which case it obviously
wouldn't be.- Hide quoted text -

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In a staff brief I recieved (as per other strikes) it specifically
stated that tickest can NOT be used on buses. Whilst not related
perfectly, it is worth noting that most London Centric TOCs have
reciprical arrangements (pretty muc free) with London Underground,
wheras when London Buses are used to pass customers this is done as a
financial arrangement and it ain't cheap.

Richard