On Feb 9, 12:27*pm, "tim...." wrote:
"Charles Ellson" wrote in message

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On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:26:59 -0000, "Recliner"
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"tim." wrote in message

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:25:29 +0000, Sam Wilson
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In my brother's village there is a small, free car park. *The
Parish
Council have to pay VAT on the notional value of the parking
service
they provide.

Never heard of that; I thought VAT was only charged on actual sales.

Does that happen anywhere else?

When my flat management company "hired" a small one man clamping
company, because we weren't VAT registered we had to pay the VAT due
on the "fines" collected (I could never work out why the person being
"fined" didn't have to pay it).

That seems very odd -- if the firm's turnover is not large enough to
have to register for VAT, it should not be charged and does not need to
be paid to HMRC. *And if the one man's clamping company was registered
for VAT, he should be responsible for including it in the fines and
paying the money over to HMRC.

ITYF the flat management company was doing the extorting with the man
in the van as their servant applying the clamps..

People have a choice to obey the sign that says: "Private property, no
unauthorised parking, clamping in operation".

I can assure you that the clamper was "responsible" in the way that he chose
to clamp a car. *He wasn't a rogue that clamped delivery vans etc
temporarily stopped on the entrance driveway.

Remember that these spaces that were being abused by outside parkers
actually BELONG to the individual flat owners. *Would you think it ok if
someone drove up to your house and decided that it was OK for them to put
their car in your garage without permission?

I've always been a great believer in the rising bollard.