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Old February 28th 11, 05:28 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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"Adrian" wrote in message

"Recliner" gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

But as I thought I'd make clear even to you, under your proposals,
absolutely no-one, however guilty, would ever, ever plead guilty, so
the state would have to prove every case beyond reasonable doubt.


Umm, yes. That's what the prosecution has to do currently. Yet people
plead guilty.


Yup, because they are pretty sure they'll be convicted anyway, and they
hope to get a lower sentence if they show remorse and please guilty.
Although murder always leads to a mandatory life sentence, the judge can
set the minimum time to be served. They may also be able to regotiate a
manslaughter plea. But if there was a risk of a death sentence, why
would anyone who isn't suicidal plead guilty?