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On Apr 3, 3:49*pm, Jamie Thompson wrote:
On Apr 3, 10:47*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:





"Tom Anderson" wrote


Also, 12 Crossrail in the peak hour? I thought 16tph were going to
Shenfield?


The plan is 12 Shenfield and 12 Abbey Wood in the peak. Actually I think
there is a case for 16 Shenfield and 8 Abbey Wood in the high peak, though
there is a need for enough trains from West/Central London to Canary Wharf.
It might actually be possible, if enough high peak trains from Shenfield run
to Crossrail to do away with the Shenfield to Liverpool Street terminus
trains. Then on the approach to Liverpool Street the Electric Lines could
become the Mains, the Mains could take some Main Line trains, trains via
Tottenham Hale and Stratford, and, from Bethnal Green, some trains off the
West Anglia Lines, leaving the Suburban pair mainly for Enfield, Southbury,
and Chingford.


Peter


In another forum a very good idea was put forward for a chord between
the tunnel near Puddling Mill and the tunnel west of Canary Wharf.
Essentially, it lets you use the remainder of the tunnel capacity to
operate additional services over the other branch.

i.e. Peak, your 24tph core becomes 12tph core-Shenfield, 12tph core-
Abbey Wood, and 12tph Shenfield-Abbey Wood, giving 24tph on all
branches. Using the alternative mentioned above, that could become
16tph core-Shenfield, 8tph core-Abbey Wood, and 8tph Shenfield-Abbey
Wood, giving 24tph on the core, 24tph on the Shenfield branch, and
16tph on the Abbey Wood branch.

It also gives interesting options like WAML trains down to Abbey Wood
via Canary Wharf, greatly relieving the Jubilee at Stratford (perhaps
permitting an extension northwards somewhere). Perhaps even offering
the possibility of a station somewhere in Tower Hamlets, which might
be good for the area.


Does the Jubulee Line need relief?