On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 10:58:38 +0000, Ian Tindale wrote:

Dave Arquati wrote:

You need to do a Google search on this newsgroup before ranting - try
Oyster and "Day Travelcard", or better yet, "price capping". Price
capping does exactly what you asked and should be coming online sometime
next month.

I did do a google search. Then I ranted. In that order. I searched for the
quoted title of this post and found nothing (although you'd find this
thread now). Should've broken it down into components I suppose. The term
"price capping" is not something I would've searched for, as it's not a
phrase I would have used in association with this topic - this is the first
time I've heard it used. Sounds hopeful though. Onward March.

But capping will work against the LT Card price and not One Day
Travelcards. It cannot work to ODTC prices and validity because there
would have to be validators / gates at every National Rail station in
the zonal area. These don't exist so therefore if you lived in an area
exclusively served by NR trains you would have no way in which to
register your trips and therefore contribute to your daily total of
rides that would be capped at the One Day Travelcard price.

It took me a long time to "click" that the LT Card price would be
trigger for the daily cap and not the One Day Travelcard.

I wonder what the rules will say about passing one day travelcards among
people in the same sense that you can pass a pre-pay oyster between people
legitimately now. In other words, if ten of you turn up at the ticket gates
and decide, now, that you'll all use the one pre-pay oyster card in
someones possession, that's perfectly legit, and the gate staff must surely
smile on that.

But you misunderstand the transferability rules for pre-pay. You cannot
have two people travelling on one card at the same time. You can give
the card to someone for them to make trips but the payment deducted from
the card applies to their travel only. If you wished to travel with them
then you would either (a) need your own pre-pay card or (b) buy a normal
ticket from a machine using the pre-pay value as a means of payment or
(c) buy a ticket with cash.

If however, the one day travelcard (or hatting, or whatever you called it,
no, it wasn't so posh - capping, yes, that's it) mechanism were in place,
after a few people had entered, you're all now effectively sharing a one
day travelcard for the rest of the day. Or is there some restriction on
multiple entries that might have to swing into place when this bonneting
scheme occurs?

You cannot transfer a One Day Travelcard between users. Neither can you
transfer an Oyster card that has both Travelcard and Pre-Pay validity on
it. Therefore your example is not permitted - each traveller would have
to have an individual card.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!