"Overground Network" - just how stupid do the operators (whoever
they happen to be this week, as opposed to last week and next
week) think we are. And, are spening MONEY on this idiocy!

Except that ON is actually a TfL initiative that has been foisted upon
the train operators in some parts of the capital.

In which case, even more idiotic, and another legacy of the fools that
vote for having a Mayor of London and all the munificence that this
has brought.

Are we, passengers (sorry, customers) so stupid as to be unable to
distinguish between the Underground and overground?!

As you almost certainly know, the point of ON is not to distinguish it
from the London Underground, but to show that the station has at
least 4 trains per hour to / from central London (i.e. that it has a
'metro' service, much like the Underground - hence the name). This
is very useful to me because when I'm at a station and I can see the
ON logo I know that I won't be standing at the station for 30 minutes
waiting for a train. If I don't see the logo I will check the timetables
and if necessary take a bus to a different station.

I for one think it's a very good idea from the Greater London Authority,
and it is one of the many reasons that I will be voting for Ken in the
upcoming elections.


Matt Ashby

Well, Matt, unlike Ken's normal quest for personal publicity (I expect to see
his mugshot on the new hackney carriage plates ....), this "ON" thing must have
been the best-kept secret of the decade: until this thread started, and I
mentioned my dislike of the logo, whose purpose I had no idea whatsoever, I had
not heard of this "metro" idea. I travel fairly often from Waterloo to Clapham
Junction, and as a railway enthusiast I am always on the look-out for new
leaflets etc., and NOWHERE have I seen a single mention of this new idea!

Despite everything that has been said, I still strongly dispute that there are
4 trains per hour from Waterloo to Wandsworth Town in the evening peak period.

Although I despise Ken and everything he stands for (except his failed attempt
to prevent privatisation of the Underground), credit where credit is due: his
sheer stickability and tenacity has to be admired. He will probably win the
next elections by sheer stealth - even a dyed-in-the-wool Tory like me wouldn't
touch Steven Norris with a barge pole!

Marc.