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Default Thameslink North South connections

On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:27:41 +0100, Paul Corfield
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:16:17 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Often discussed here, but now something concrete in the London & SE RUS
final version - some north/south origin/destination pairings of
Thameslink
services.

18 tph through London Bridge

Brighton - Bedford 12-car (4 tph)
Three Bridges - Peterborough 12-car
Horsham - Cambridge 12-car
East Grinstead - Bedford 12-car Peak only
Caterham - St Albans 8-car
Tattenham Corner - Welwyn Garden City 8-car
Tunbridge Wells - Bedford 12-car Peak only
Ashford International -Luton 12-car Peak only

6tph via Elephant and Castle

Maidstone East via Catford - Welwyn Garden City 8-car
Sevenoaks via Catford - Luton 8-car
Bellingham via Catford - St Albans 8-car

Hope this of some interest


Yes it is interesting to see how they intend to link up the respective
routes and what service pattern will operate. It'll be interesting to
see Horsham and Maidstone East trains being advertised at Finsbury
Park!

Thanks also for confirming in another post the likely fate, in
franchising terms, of the Sutton loop service. I knew it was going no
further than Blackfriars - there have been enough "campaigns" about it
over recent months and years.

One small question - is it still the case that there will be a flat
junction south of Blackfriars where the LOB and E&C routes diverge?

I can't imagine anything fancy like flyunders can be put in place
given the CX line alignment. Nonetheless that is going to some
challenge to get 18 tph in both directions across a flat junction
without too many conflicts given the pretty long distance nature of
many of the services and risks of late running.


The flyover/dive under for the New Cross Gate route trains will be to the
east of London Bridge. Thameslink services will use the platforms
currently used by Charing Cross trains and the existing two track route
over Borough Market. The Charing Cross services will generally be using
the new platforms to be built to the south of platforms 1-6 and the new
bridge over Borough Market recently put in place (but with no track due to
be laid until later on in the project).

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