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Old August 5th 11, 12:50 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Pat O'Neill wrote on 11 July 2011 21:27:16 ...

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wrote on 11 July 2011 20:38:18 ...

Surley isn't too much to ****ing ask to have a safety cut, doors open,
train
can't go. Even I could design that.
You must work for LUL to support them for a safety failure.


If you'd confined your post to the fact that the train departed with the
doors open instead of ranting on and on about other things, you wouldn't
have had that reaction.

A train departing with open doors is serious, so perhaps you can tell us
more about the incident. Was it just one door that stayed open or were
they all open? Were they fully open or partly closed? Did you or anyone
else in your car press the alarm button as soon as the train moved with
doors open?

Sounds to me like an incident that RAIB should take an interest in.


RAIB would be very interested


They are indeed. RAIB issued a bulletin this morning (5 Aug 2011):
http://www.raib.gov.uk/publications/...ren_street.cfm

The sequence of events seems to have been as follows:
- Driver attempts to depart from Oxford Circus
- Train detects something caught in door (sensitive edge activation) and
stops itself.
- Driver establishes that nothing significant is actually caught, so
disables sensitive edge detection and proceeds to Warren Street.
- At Warren Street, where the platform is on the other side, the
sensitive edge activation from Oxford Street is still present, so "the
driver isolated safety systems which allowed the train to move with the
doors open". It's not clear from the brief summary whether this meant
he disabled the sensitive edge detection again or isolated the system in
some other way.

The RAIB investigation "will include an examination of the sequence of
events leading up to the incident, the driver’s training and competence,
and the implementation of sensitive edge doors on the new Victoria Line
trains (including the associated control system)".

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Richard J.
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