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Old September 17th 11, 10:43 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Westfield and the DLR

Recliner wrote on 17 September 2011
11:32:34 ...
"Richard wrote in message

wrote on 16 September 2011
12:08:41 ...
Yesterday, I took my first trip to Westfield Stratford and the DLR
extension. Here's a few observations:

[snip]

3. Walking the route of the DLR.

When the DLR extension enters Stratford station from the south (using
the former NLL platforms), it's at local ground level. But when it
leaves heading north, it appears to be in a cut and cover tunnel. Of
course, it's still at the original ground level, but Westfield
bridges over it.

What's interesting is to walk one of the open curved 'streets' in
Westfield, from M&S to the Cow pub (I think this may also be one of
the main routes for spectators walking to the Olympics site from
Stratford station). If you carry a GPS (as I did), you realise that
you're walking directly over the DLR route.


I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion, but it's entirely wrong.
The DLR tunnel curves sharply left on leaving platforms 16/17, passing
under M&S, after which it's not under the shopping centre. The line
emerges from the tunnel, facing west, just north of the Aquatics
Centre. At that point it's adjacent to the Overground NLL tracks. You
can see it at the top of the photo at
http://www.london2012.com/photos/201...ics-centre.php
, also on Google maps satellite view.


Looking further at plans I've found on-line, it looks like the
restaurant piazza end of the curved street is over the DLR at the
western edge of Westfield (as my GPS showed), but the more sharply
curved DLR is indeed routed further south, under M&S, rather than just
to its north as I had thought. See p9 and p10 in
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...v9 A35yoD098A


Thanks for that link. Westfield are frustratingly reluctant to make
maps of the centre available, same as at Shepherd's Bush. There aren't
any *curved* streets shown leading to the restaurant plaza.

I've now found a photo which proves that you are right (and I was wrong)
about the DLR tunnel continuing underneath the buildings after passing
under M&S. There's a large aerial photo towards the end of
http://uk.westfield.com/stratfordcit...ssue_three.pdf
It shows the west portal of the DLR tunnel, and construction in progress
on top of the tunnel.

It's interesting how the new LU northern ticket office bridges the DLR
tracks.

If you descend to car park B in the 'basement', you can work out
where the lower level of the car park flanks the line to the north.


The curved wall of the car park does indeed follow the DLR tunnel, but
the DLR is to the *south* of the car park. Have a look at
http://uk.westfield.com/stratfordcit...retailer=45219
and click on Lower Ground Floor. You can see the DLR tunnel next to
the green car park. (Confusingly, the top of the map faces
north-west.)


Yes, as I said, the car park is on the north flank of the DLR 'tunnel'.
In other words, we agree.


OK, good. The words you used originally ("the line to the north") gave
me the opposite impression.
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Richard J.
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