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Old October 11th 11, 12:31 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 12:36:09 on
Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Bruce remarked:

Aircraft emissions are overall slightly greenhouse negative


That sounds interesting, but could you explain what that means in
simple, non-technical English?


It means that if you add up the greenhouse contributions of the
emissions it's slightly negative. Although you can probably find people
who disagree. Greenhouse politics is a bit like that. "Often in error,
but never in doubt" [of their being correct] as someone said.

Some of the contributions a SO2 reflects heat as well as the
contrails. The engines burn some atmospheric Methane, but nitrous oxides
react with it as well, so there's another reduction in greenhouse
effect.

Looking at growth, air transport is increasing at 4% a year globally,
but set against that there's a 2% per annum increase in fuel efficiency.



Thanks. I'm still not sure what you mean by "slightly negative". A
negative contribution to greenhouse gases might be generally positive,
which is why I am confused.

As to your more general point about 'greenhouse politics', a major
research project that was carried out under the auspices of IPCC has
identified (with a high degree of confidence) the cause of at least
half of the warming of the last 150 years. It may account for even
more of the warming, as much as two thirds.

But the cause has nothing whatsoever to do with carbon emissions, so
the findings don't fit the IPCC's anti-fossil fuels mantra and have
been dismissed. That's a prime example of 'greenhouse politics'
overriding good science.