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Old November 12th 11, 12:02 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
Jamie Thompson Jamie  Thompson is offline
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Default Decision on rail link due before Christmas

On Nov 12, 11:12*am, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"Neil Williams" wrote

The difference is the infrastructure, not the trains. *The Bakerloo
"shared" bit is +660 outer, 0 inner, so works for both. *The Tube proper
including the Met is +440 outer, -220 inner, so no good for third rail
EMUs. *Or something like that.


When the Croxley Link is built the section through Watford High Street will
have to have an operative 4th rail reinstated (for the Met trains) but at 0V
(bonded to the running rails for the LO trains. Should there be any
intention to run LO trains on to the existing Met (e.g. a Watford Junction
to Chesham or Amersham service) the Met infrastructure would have to be
altered in the same way as Queens Park to Harrow & W, Putney Bridge to
Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury - Richmond. It would be easier to use LU trains.

IMHO there is a case for the Croxley Link also to be used by trains from
Chesham or Amersham. But I doubt that there's a business case for procuring
new trains for this, and the likely traffic won't justify 8-car trains.
Perhaps a few of the D78 trains could be arranged as 4-car sets and modified
as necessary for future Met signalling. Certainly a better place to use them
than Harrogate.

Peter


The maintenance issue would no doubt rear it's had again though on
operating non-standard stock. Perhaps keeping them away from the other
children at a rebuilt Wiggenhall Road might suffice...but I think
you'd far more likely end up with too few S7/S8s on an infrequent
service than a correct number of D78s on a frequent one (It's the same
problem as the St. Albans line - infrequent services push passengers
away, but longer services aren't justified by the current loadings.
Make them frequent enough and you'll get the custom I believe). TfL
does seem to prefer to operate for it's own operational convenience
more than passengers most of the time...