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Old November 24th 11, 05:21 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Transport Committee's view on "wave and pay"


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On Nov 23, 6:43 pm, "tim......" wrote:
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http://www.london.gov.uk/publication/future-ticketing

The (widely reported) executive summary is quite polite given that the
full
report is rather damming, if not on the idea itself certainly on the (lack
of) process for justifying it.

Personally, I see a full report that just confirms my original view that
this is nothing more than a vanity project for the people involved in
managing it.

What a pity my taxes paying for it.


Oddly I was pondering on this coming development a few days ago and
thinking about just how much of a revolution in ticketing I imagine
it'll likely be (well, maybe "revolution" is a bit strong - it's an
overused and abused word anyway - let's say a "step-change") - in
other words a take on it all that's almost the polar opposite of
yours.

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I didn't have a principled objection, well I did but that was because I was
worried that this was a pre-cursor to it being a complete Oyster
replacement, but both the committee and Which (who they asked for comments)
said that this shouldn't be allowed happen in order not to disenfranchise
the "unbanked", who are predominantly the poorest in the community. On that
justification I don't think that a government agency, even one as
"independent" as TfL would ignore such advice.

No, my objection now is the cost - 73 million with a quoted payback of 12
years. Doesn't sound like much, but it's 73 million that doesn't need to be
spent.

And 12 years is far too long for a "new tech" development to recoup its
costs - it could be obsolete before then, and as the report says, the
figures used to calculate this period have been picked out of thin air and
there's a 50% risk of a 50% overspend (or something like that).

No commercial organization would take on the risk of this project for the
(imho) small immediate benefits, they would wait until the technology is
more mature before jumping in. Why is it OK when it's my money they are
spending?

tim