On 29/12/2011 23:20, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:35:22 +0000, Bevan Price
wrote:

On 29/12/2011 21:27, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:37:06 +0000, Bevan Price
wrote:

On 28/12/2011 20:01, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:10:07 +0000, Bevan Price
wrote:

On 28/12/2011 17:01, furnessvale wrote:
On Dec 28, 4:36 pm, Bevan wrote:



I think not and I doubt if anyone else does.

(which you are entitled
to, and which may shared by others.). Many other people feel that
murderers should forfeit the right to freedom for as long as they live.

Some should and do. Many others are the perpetrators of a serious
mistake, a moment's loss of control which does not get repeated or
have been provoked beyond reasonable endurance into the act; one-off
events which, while offensive to society, do not harm the general
public and do not require the ongoing protection of others.


I concede that there is a case for different classes / degrees of murder
charge, but conviction under the most serious (first degree) charge
should always lead to a full-life sentence. This would include killing
whilst performing robbery or other serious crime, killing with
explosives, killing more than one person, etc. Should they ever be
identified (unlikely after nearly 50 years), this would also include the
Elm Park Murderer(s), who killed two people by putting metal objects on
the railway, derailing a train. The classic excuse "but we didn't intend
to kill anyone" should be debarred as a means of seeking conviction
under a lesser charge such as manslaughter.

Bevan