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Old January 1st 12, 09:36 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london,misc.transport.rail.europe
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Default Complete (almost) Shutdown of Berlin Train System - could it??happen here...??

Am 01.01.2012 23:21, schrieb Hans-Joachim Zierke:

Clark F Morris schrieb:


Is the problem with the 425 series the seating (or seating
arrangement)?


Both.

Would it be feasible to change the seating during a
major overhaul and eliminate the problem? If the problems are
elsewhere, are they fixable during a major overhaul at reasonable
cost?


The seating could be changed, and this could make it a much better train.
Knee room would still not be sufficient, though, but there are more
examples for that, so it would be bad, but not exceptionally bad.
(Arrangement is unchangeable due to tech under the seats.)

As well, noise damping against the ear-piercing inverter frequencies at
some loadlevels should be technically possible.



BTW: The original concept for the 425 pointed to a superior train.
Then the beancounters came in and ruined it beyond repair.



Two adult males can't sit side by side. On the window side, the garbage
can gets pressed into your leg above the knee, on the other side, the
base of the armrest was sharpened towards the passenger's leg for maximum
torture effect...


We are talking about these seats.
http://www.bahnbilder.de/bilder/br-425-15767.jpg
http://www.vbn.de/bilder/et425-innen.jpg
Indeed it's a bit narrow for the typical German railfan suffering on
adipositas - and you can't open the window to lean out.
That's why regional trains in Germany at any case have to look lioke this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...A_DSB00017.JPG
in the last and in the next five decades.

Oliver Schnell