"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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17:31:38 on Wed, 22 Feb 2012, Mizter T remarked:

On Feb 22, 8:07 pm, Neil Williams wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:52:06 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:
Does that mean there's actually no such thing as an "&HS1"
Travelcard?

AIUI correct.

In terms of inboundary Travelcards, yes I agree. (For an outboundary
Travelcard - from say Ashford or Dover, it'll either be "Route: any
permitted" and so valid on HS1, or "Route: Not HS1" but upgradable for
travel on HS1 with a supplement.

The chap at the station specifically said that an outboundary Travelcard
marked "Any Permitted" was *not* valid on HS1. He looked at that part of
mine, and didn't even read where it was issued (because he asked that
later). He said that (eg) Ashford ones would have some sort of "&HS1"
routing (I forget the exact phrase).

You were right first time.

They say "any permitted" or "Not HS1" where that indication ONLY applies to
the "single use" part of the ticket. It is irrelevant to any travelcard
element of the ticket, which (as you have been told) is never valid on HS1.

Of course, to see whether HS1 is permitted on an Any permitted ticket
requires you to look at the routing guide (in the same way that you might if
you wanted to know if it is valid to travel e.g. from Manchester into
Paddington via Reading - which IIRC used to be valid, but isn't any more).


It's not so much an upgrade, as a supplement for one ride on the
HS1. Maybe it *is* just the same as buying a new ticket?

I think it may well be.

Ditto.

For Stratford Int'l to St Pancras Int'l...

Anytime Single - GBP5.70.
Anytime Day Return - GBP9.80
Off Peak Day Return - GBP7.30

I have a feeling he quoted £5.30, bicbw.

There's no way of upgrading an inboundary Travelcard (nor indeed an
outboundary Travelcard for a journey that would never go via HS1 even
on payment of a supplement, e.g. Reading to London Travelcard, or
Cambridge to London Travelcard).

Indeed, but what about a supplement, to add a one-shot HS1 trip?

There isn't one - live with it :-)

tim