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Old February 26th 12, 03:18 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london,misc.transport.rail.americas
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On 26-Feb-12 04:18, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:10:19 on Sat, 25 Feb
2012, Stephen Sprunk remarked:
AIUI, in Europe the customer is liable for fraud with EMV cards, which
is why banks and merchants have pushed it there--


Then your understanding is incorrect. There's no extra risk from the
customer using EMV.


Then what was with the numerous news and blog articles to that effect
several years ago, including (in the latter) instructions on how to
break the EMV chip to force signature transactions?

S

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