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Old March 4th 12, 01:04 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london,misc.transport.rail.americas
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In message , at 13:42:19 on Sun, 4 Mar 2012,
Phil remarked:
In a UK restaurant you have to add the tip to the bill before contacting
the card company. That's not so very different from my experience in the
USA where they give you the bill, with an empty field for the tip, which
you hand to the waiter *filled in* (along with your card).

The only* way I've ever seen it in the US is this:

1. The waiter presents an itemized bill _without_ a tip line.
2. You either give him cash (including tip) or a card.
3. The waiter swipes the card in the register, which authorizes the card
for the bill plus an estimated tip.
4. The waiter returns with the card and two slips showing the subtotal,
empty tip line, and empty total line.
5. You fill in the tip and total on the "merchant copy" slip, sign the
slip and hand it back to the waiter. You can leave now. (You should
also fill the tip and total on the "customer copy" slip, for your own
records.)
6. The waiter enters the tip into the register, which updates the credit
card transaction with the correct total for when it's posted later.


That just shows things are indeed different in different countries.

In the UK I have never been asked for pre-authorisation in a resturant, would
walk out if I was.


I don't think I've ever been asked either. For the avoidance of doubt,
the process described above isn't pre-authorizing, it's what happens
when you pay at the end of the meal.

Some pubs you pay when you order, but that is payment, you pay again
with a different transaction if you order anything else.


One of the biggest differences between pubs is whether they allow "run a
tab", or "run a tab if they hold your card", or of course ask for
payment with order.

There's also a different feel between pubs where you order at the bar,
and ones with waiters.

At Pizza Hut you pay when you leave, what would they do if you are paying by cash?


You pay them the cash, and leave a cash tip on the table if you want to.

Hotels tend to do this, but never sure why as they have your card
details when you book, so that they can charge you if you don't turn up.


Once you've turned up it becomes a "cardholder present" transaction,
which has different rules to "cardholder not present" (for a no-show
room booking).
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Roland Perry