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05:48:33 on Tue, 3 Apr 2012, neill remarked:
On Apr 3, 8:25*am, Roland Perry wrote:
at 00:52:02 on Wed, 28 Mar 2012, peter
remarked:

How often do you see motor vehicles at traffic lights abusing the
cyclists advanced stop lines?

Very often. On the other hand I've never seen a *cyclist* using any of
the numerous advanced stop boxes in the town where I live. Cyclists are
a rarity in any case, but those who encounter red traffic lights tend to
mount the pavement and use the pedestrian crossing facilities (oblivious
to whether the little man is red or green, naturally).

At least they aren't running the red lights in the road itself!

I cycle to work and also drive a car. I see other cyclists doing
stupid things, arrogant things. (Have you ever tried to drive through
Richmond Park on a Sunday with hordes of them riding three or more
abreast?).

No, I don't think I ever have.

Cycling more than one abreast is one of those things which especially
annoys motorists, though. Cars don't generally drive two or three
abreast.

There's good and bad in all road users. I rode motorbikes
until quite recently and use the skills I acquired there to defend my
space and register threats.

And similar skills are taught on Advanced Driving courses (which I have
the certificates for). Long ago I also got a Cycling Proficiency badge!
--
Roland Perry