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Old April 13th 12, 10:45 AM posted to uk.transport.london
Roland Perry Roland Perry is offline
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Default Oyster penalties again

In message , at 08:42:20 on Fri, 13 Apr
2012, d remarked:
It may also be a belt-and-braces way to be able to ask to see the card,
because it's their card so they are entitled to see it (irrespective of
the general byelaws saying you have to make it available for
inspection).


On a related subject - how much legal powers do revenue inspectors have?
If someone just tells them to eff off is there much they can do about it
apart from call the BTP?


National Conditions of Carriage

22. You must show and, if asked to do so by the staff of a Train Company
or its agent, hand over for inspection a valid ticket and any relevant
Railcard, photocard or other form of personal identification in
accordance with Condition 15.

If you don't, the worst which happens is being treated as if you don't
have a ticket - which could vary from a Penalty Fare to a prosecution
for fare evasion, depending on the circumstances.

Reinforced by Railway Byelaws 17 & 18:

"A person shall hand over his ticket for inspection and verification of
validity when asked to do so by an authorised person."

And byelaw 24.

"Any person who is reasonably believed by an authorised person to be in
breach of any of these Byelaws shall leave the railway immediately if
asked to do so by an authorised person."

"Any person who is reasonably believed by an authorised person to be in
breach of any of these Byelaws and who fails to desist or leave when
asked to do so by an authorised person may be removed from the railway
by an authorised person using reasonable force. This right of removal is
in addition to the imposition of any penalty for the breach of these
Byelaws."
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Roland Perry