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Old May 29th 12, 01:52 PM posted to uk.railway,misc.transport.urban-transit,uk.transport.london
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Default BML2/Crossrail Western Extensions.

On May 26, 6:49*pm, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2012 02:07:31 -0700 (PDT), e27002





wrote:
On May 25, 9:39*pm, mark townend wrote:
On May 25, 9:18*pm, Jamie *Thompson wrote:


On May 25, 12:53*pm, Neil Williams
wrote:


Jamie *Thompson wrote:


...and I would hope that if they did decide to move the SSL platforms
in front of the NR station


They already are. *The entrance is just in the wrong place.


Not really. One end of them might well be, but if you put a tunnel in
it'd be so ridiculously overloaded it'd be nigh on unusable. Really
you need two passenger tunnels to the NR station, one on each end of
the SSL platforms to prevent overloading them (see: Crossrail design
principles).


Extending the platforms eastwards by the equivalent of 3-4 car lengths
would probably be enough to achieve this, and you could then wall up
the current western end of the platforms as you'd only need S8 lengths
and then use these as utility rooms or some such.


So a new subway entrance from Euston mainline concourse connecting to
the extended eastern end of the Met station and 'relief tunnels' at
least partway alongside the platforms with additional cross-passage
accesses to them. Perhaps the platforms could be widened instead to
achieve a similar capacity. Are the existing platforms not full S8
length and if so do they operate using some sort of SDO system?


It would probably mean a rebuild of Euston Square Station. *But, it
really is an omission not to have a Circle Line Station connected to
Euston. *It was also gross stupidity to rebuild Euston so far back
from Euston Road.


Look at a pre-1960s map. Euston station was rebuilt in the roughly the
same place.

It was actually extended something like 50 yards towards Euston Road.
Drummond Street used to run right across the front of the old station.
It was cut into two by the construction of the new station; what is
now Doric Way (presumably named after the Doric portico which was
demolished during the station rebuilding works) was formerly the
eastern end of the same street.

If I remember rightly, on one side of the station there's some kind of
goods vehicle underpass that dives under the new station roughly on
the line of the missing part of Drummond Street.

Martin L