On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 04:44:31 -0700 (PDT), Stephen Furley
wrote:

On Jun 2, 12:14*pm, e27002 wrote:
On May 27, 4:49*pm, allantracy wrote:

Given the expenditure of well over £1.5bn on the Overground network
nothing should be breaking down or requiring extensive replacement on
those sections where the work has been done. Quite what is wrong with
the signalling on the DC lines I don't know. *Failure after failure
and with ridiculously long repair times.

Yeah well London Overground always was just a crap and confusing image
makeover.

Stuck being nether one thing (new underground line) or the other (main
line).

Your remarks surprise me. *While the shambles reported here is nothing
of which TfL should be proud. *And, the western side of the Overground
need further upgrading (The speed on the Willesden Junction to Clapham
Junction stretch is too low). *Overall the Overground is a great
network. *It joins together the networks in London proper, and the
parts in annexed Surrey and Kent. *It makes journeys possible that
previously required slow bus trips and changes. *It makes journeys
between the outlying boroughs doable and enjoyable. *The Eastern side
is especially pleasant.

One can nitpick about details. *But, overall I am not sure what there
is to dislike about the Overground.

The overcrowding is probably the worst thing; it's actually been too
successful.

Yes, the trains urgently need those fifth cars. It's amazing that
three-car 313s were regarded as adequate not so long ago.