On 18/09/2012 10:44, Graham Harrison wrote:

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On 16/09/2012 23:56, Neil Williams wrote:
Ken Wheatley wrote:

I remember when many London buses had a ticket machine inside the
right-hand leaf of the entrance door, so those with the right money
could
bypass the queue for the driver. The really slow ones were the worst at
having a go at 'queue jumpers".

It would to me make sense to have an Oyster pad there. Hamburg is
slightly
similar - driver side leaf for paying cash, other side for getting past
while people pay cash (you don't have to show your ticket). It is
extremely efficient, and as London has disabled access at the rear
door the
centre rail could be reinstated to help "marshall" it.

Neil


I have wondered if they would install automatic fare counters on
busses, rather than having the driver count them.

A passenger would simply the deposit coins into a chute, after which a
ticket would be issued.

The counter would be mounted on the interior of the driver's door and
the receptacle would be where passengers now place their coins when
paying for a single fare.

Exact fare only -- no change, no banknotes. Just think of how much
extra revenue would come in from people overpaying their fares.

Or would it just be too much cost in time, labour and maintenance when
so few people pay for single fares?

Ahh, the American model!

The American model in what sense, by having a farebox? They already have
similar things here in the UK, though not in London.