On 4 Jan, 13:47, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 04:49:33 -0800 (PST)





77002 wrote:
On 4 Jan, 12:24, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 04:14:40 -0800 (PST)

77002 wrote:
later there was an increase. =A0It went up to 6d (2.5p). =A0I guess TfL
and its predecessors never looked back!

No doubt back then they were coming out with the same old guff about need=
ing
it for service improvements which are "just around the corner! Honest guv=
!".
Arthur Daley would be embarrassed to do to his customers what TfL do to i=
ts
passengers on a daily basis. Still, I'm back in the car next week so ****=
em.

One sympathises with your sentiment. *From my perspective, my time in
the UK is enhanced by not driving.

Don't get me wrong - I don't find driving to work in the car enjoyable. The
north circular is a hideous road. But its cheaper , quicker, more comfortable
and far fewer abnormal delays. In fact the one time the road was completely
stuffed and I ended up crawling along in a 6 mile jam it was still a few
minutes quicker than the normal non delayed tube journey. For anything other
than into central london the tube is hopeless. As for the NLL which I tried
once, ye gods - a horse and cart would have been quicker!

It is interesting that you should mention the NLL. As of now I have
not used the SLL Overground or the Watford DC lines in their new
incarnation.

However, I have tried out the rest of the Overground. My opinion is
as follows: Eastern side of the system, those rotes coming in from
Croydon, et al, are the epitome of a modern urban railway, frequent
and reasonably fast. The NLL has refurbished stations and new trains,
but is slow. But, the NLL speed is almost sensible when compared with
the WLL. The amble from Clapham Junction thru Chelsea, Brompton,
Olympia, Shepherds Bush, et al is pitiful.

Other than speed the Overground is great system. What is the
problem? Surely it is fixable?