On 18 Feb, 07:59, Neil Williams
wrote:
Recliner wrote:
They are ordering lots of new trains, but many are on behalf of DfT and
won't be used on Southern.

You could argue that they (and a small subset of their passengers) don't
deserve them. *The state of some of their Electrostars is disgusting
compared with LM's not all that much newer 350/1s which are always spotless
and without bits of panel hanging off, blown bulbs and graffiti in the
bogs.

That is really sad to hear. Maybe it is time to utilize the services
of a security firm. A "presence" on trains, platforms, and by the
line side, would bring the behavior under control.