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On 16/06/2013 01:26, Recliner wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 15/06/2013 11:36, Recliner wrote:

wrote:
Recliner wrote:
e27002 wrote:


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You have difficulty avoiding responding to my posts without a snide
remarks. Mention this to your therapist. He may be able to help.
London has been my past home for a sum total of eight years.
Variously, I lived in Surbiton, Motspur Park, Maida Vale, The West End
(Hanson Street), New Malden, and Shepherds Bush. The term "the city"
always referred to, and only referred to, the square mile (actually
1.6 square miles) of the City of London. This was true even when the
term was utilized within the City of Westminster! So, by your
imputation none of my neighbors, or colleagues, were sensible people.


Neither Edgware, nor Morden are in "the city" any more than Lancaster
and Long Beach are in the City of Los Angeles. Both Lancaster and
Long Beach are certainly in the County of Los Angeles.
Spend some time in London; you will become accustomed to the
vernacular.


Wow, you lived in six well-separated London areas in just eight years
-- presumably you were on the run from the cops, debt collectors or
cuckolded husbands? No wonder you needed therapy when you finally
escaped to the US, although from your previous posts, I get the
impression that you've kept up your peripatetic existence in the
States as well. I'm afraid I've never met a therapist, so I'll have
trouble discussing your case with one -- is it compulsory to use them
in the US, along with gun ownership? In this country, few people feel
the need for either. Perhaps that's why you left.


I've visited the US around 70 times since 1979 but, fortunately, very
few of my itineraries included LA. I have to confess that I regarded
Long Beach as part of LA when I dined under the Spruce Goose there. I
now realise my grave error in not mastering the political geography of
the city before visiting it. Even worse, I made the critical mistake
of thinking that Disneyland and LAX were in LA when I was there. Was I
also wrong in thinking that Hollywood was in LA?


If you're interested in the answers, they a

(a) Long Beach is in LA county but isn't part of the city of Los Angeles
(it's a city in its own right);

(b) Disneyland is in Anaheim, about thirty miles from the nearest part of
the city of LA; Anaheim is in Orange County;

(c) LAX is indeed within the city of Los Angeles, though this appears to
have been achieved by contrivance; the shape of the municipality is odd, to say the least:

http://tinyurl.com/mwmua75

Just look at that narrow finger of territory heading south (parallel with
I-110) to take in San Pedro, but not Long Beach, which is adjacent to it.

(d) Hollywood and Belair lie within the city of LA, but adjacent areas
are outside the city (eg, Burbank, Beverly Hills and - oddly - North Hollywood).


As you say, the city of LA has a strange, gerrymandered shape. But do
locals routinely distinguish between which of these districts are within
the city of LA and which are simply close to it? While I know that
Disneyland is in Orange County, I also think of Disneyland=LA, Disney
World=Orlando.


I don't say that the LA city boundaries have been gerrymandered for
partisan advantage, but just looking at the map of the city's outline
tells you that there has been contrived adjustment over the years.

But this is not unusual in the USA. Even the states have had their
shapes and edges defined by Congress. Just look at the way that Alabama
and Georgia each have a bit of coastline on the Gulf of Mexico. There
was a time when all of that was part of the Florida panhandle and when
Alabama (though obviously not Georgia) was landlocked.