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Old October 6th 13, 06:05 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Walter Briscoe Walter Briscoe is offline
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Default The Economist on the Overground

In message of Sun, 6 Oct
2013 15:15:48 in uk.transport.london, Paul Corfield
writes
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 10:07:27 +0100, Walter Briscoe
wrote:

What proposal? With Google, I managed to find TSGN = Thameslink Great
Northern, but nothing to amplify Paul's allusion. Searching for Moorgate


That should have been Thameslink Southern Great Northern. ;(

in a recent consultation document showed nothing relevant.


The proposal that is included in the ITT documentation and
consultation results published on the DfT website last week. Just have
a search for DfT Press Releases to see what is proposed for Thameslink
and Great Northern services.


That did not help.


There is also an article on the London Reconnections website.


I found a link to https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/consultat
ion-on-the-combined-thameslink-southern-and-great-northern-franchise,
where there are 2 links to the same document.
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...chment_data/fi
le/245205/consultation-responses-tsgn.pdf
and
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...chment_data/fi
le/245203/consultation-responses-tsgn.doc

I searched the latter for Moorgate and found some noise in addition to:
p.44 As part of the TSGN franchise requirements ... There will be
additional services into Moorgate at busy times, evenings and weekends.
p.45 4.87 From December 2015, trains running via Finsbury Park will no
longer be diverted to King's Cross at certain times but terminate at
Moorgate ...
I saw 2 potential reasons: increased social activity in the Old Street
ares; Overground and Crossrail interchange. The Overground already seems
overloaded at Highbury and Islington; after 2118, an extra Crossrail
interchange may well be useful.
OTOH, I can't understand proposals to send a few trains to St Pancras
International (SPI), rather than King's Cross, given the slow
interchange between SPI and London Underground.

I did not penetrate documents as far as finding proposed service
intervals; the current Moorgate 10' service is ineffective for casual
users. Putting the Moorgate - Finsbury Park link back on the Tube map
might be helpful - it was probably there when that service was an
isolated Northern Line service before the 1975 disaster. http://en.wiki
pedia.org/wiki/Moorgate_tube_crash - similar considerations apply to
Farringdon - Blackfriars.
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Walter Briscoe