Even without signage, those who rode the Tubes could feel the
"missing" tunnels. One characteristic of the Tubes is the extremely
sharp narrow radius turns which cause lurching and noise.

The most noticeable are the junctions in Jersey City [from Exchange
Place and Journal Square to Pavonia Newport and from Hoboken and
Pavonia Newport to Christopher Street] but even in Manhattan, such as
leaving 9th Street bound northwards at the aborted tunnel to the East
Side. On the section from the uptown tunnel to Hoboken you pass
through three turns which sometimes seem to be right angled!

There's more info on the Tubes / PATH at my Hudson Tubes website at
http://www.hudsoncity.net/tubes/gatewaytubepage.html .
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"Stephen Furley" wrote in message ...
"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message
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Are you sure that's the whole line? Various underwater tunnels in the
New York area are the "name Tubes", so the "Hudson Tubes" would
logically be the WTC branch with some other name for the 33rd Street
branch.
I think so; when I was there the World Trade Center line was closed, so I
have only been on the 33rd street one, therefore the tiled signs I have seen
pointing to the 'Hudson Tubes' must have been on that line. I think one is
at 33rd street.

When I was first there, in April 2002, Path seemed to have made every
possible effort to remove all possible effort to remove all evidence of the
WTC line. There was no 'closed for reconstruction' to be seen anywhere.
there are a few cast metal route diagrams which had not been removed or
covered, but I had not seen these. When I heard of the WTC station I
assumed it was served by a branch heading South from somewhere near
Christopher Street, but I could see no sign of a junction there. It was
only when I returned six months later that I discovered that the WTC line
had its own tunnels under the Hudson, and the junctions were clearly
visible, if I had been looking for them in the right place. The Path
station at Exchange place was still there of course, and I think can be seen
from a passing Hudson-Bergen train, but I had not noticed it the first time.