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Old June 27th 14, 05:34 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Roland Perry Roland Perry is offline
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Default TfL acknowledges contactless technology risk

In message , at 17:52:06 on Fri, 27
Jun 2014, tim..... remarked:
ITSO on c2c is available now , so the 2017 rollout must refer to either
payment at ticket offices, or a similar scheme to TfL.


Can you get a TfL Travelcard on C2C ITSO (or more to the point, will
TfL recognise it?)

Similarly, have C2C already implemented ITSO-purse purchasing of
walk-up tickets at machines?


current ITSO news as of June 16th:

"c2c's ITSO-compliant Smartcard can now be loaded with Anytime Weekday
and Off-Peak Returns, plus weekly, monthly and annual season tickets
and used at sfor (sic) stations between Shoeburyness/Southend and
Tilbury Town/West Horndon"


Also for trips to London (not just between Southend and Tilbury?)

London travelcards are part of phase II from October


So still well into vapourware.

http://www.c2c-online.co.uk/tickets-...art-card/index

http://www.itso.org.uk/

It doesn't say how you actually pay for the tickets that you load onto
the card, so I guess that is by putting some form of payment into the
ticket machine at time of purchase. Nor does it say if the purchased
tickets are a store of open tickets or only for a designated date.


My only experience is now somewhat out of date (EMT's ITSO pilot). I
think they didn't activate the purse, and so payment was by traditional
means (including CCs at machine and online).

As purchases at machines are (in almost all cases) famously for "today
only", I haven't tried an online purchase of an ITSO day return for a
day in the future. Anyone compiling a chart of all of this should
certainly have that as one of the tickable possibilities.

So the only "biggie" here is that you can buy (and presumably pay)
online and pick up your ticket at the gate (or not),


That's the future for ITSO, but doesn't explain what happens if you have
multiple tickets awaiting collection. Reverting to a scheme where
tickets dated "today" are only valid "today" would help, but last time
they tried that for Anytime tickets they rapidly changed it back to
"today plus three days" for the outbound leg.

I think we're back to the discussion that we had before about this
being nothing more than an electronic "paper ticket" (with online
purchase option)


That's all it is. With the added problem that if you have several
un-used tickets in your pocket, which one will the barrier decide you
want to use?
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Roland Perry