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Old June 27th 14, 07:22 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 17:52:06 on Fri, 27 Jun
2014, tim..... remarked:
ITSO on c2c is available now , so the 2017 rollout must refer to either
payment at ticket offices, or a similar scheme to TfL.

Can you get a TfL Travelcard on C2C ITSO (or more to the point, will TfL
recognise it?)

Similarly, have C2C already implemented ITSO-purse purchasing of walk-up
tickets at machines?


current ITSO news as of June 16th:

"c2c's ITSO-compliant Smartcard can now be loaded with Anytime Weekday and
Off-Peak Returns, plus weekly, monthly and annual season tickets and used
at sfor (sic) stations between Shoeburyness/Southend and Tilbury Town/West
Horndon"


Also for trips to London (not just between Southend and Tilbury?)


Is that a question or a statement?

(I think the answer is No)

London travelcards are part of phase II from October


So still well into vapourware.

http://www.c2c-online.co.uk/tickets-...art-card/index

http://www.itso.org.uk/

It doesn't say how you actually pay for the tickets that you load onto the
card, so I guess that is by putting some form of payment into the ticket
machine at time of purchase. Nor does it say if the purchased tickets are
a store of open tickets or only for a designated date.


My only experience is now somewhat out of date (EMT's ITSO pilot). I think
they didn't activate the purse, and so payment was by traditional means
(including CCs at machine and online).

As purchases at machines are (in almost all cases) famously for "today
only", I haven't tried an online purchase of an ITSO day return for a day
in the future. Anyone compiling a chart of all of this should certainly
have that as one of the tickable possibilities.


You can definitely buy tickets "online" for "tomorrow". the engine seemed
exactly the same as the SET one and that sells tickets into the future.

But my query was "can I buy a ticket that I would like to use for one day
next week but I'm not sure which day?" - to be dated the day that I pick it
up (if that is a necessary simplicity).

So the only "biggie" here is that you can buy (and presumably pay) online
and pick up your ticket at the gate (or not),


That's the future for ITSO, but doesn't explain what happens if you have
multiple tickets awaiting collection. Reverting to a scheme where tickets
dated "today" are only valid "today" would help, but last time they tried
that for Anytime tickets they rapidly changed it back to "today plus three
days" for the outbound leg.

I think we're back to the discussion that we had before about this being
nothing more than an electronic "paper ticket" (with online purchase
option)


That's all it is. With the added problem that if you have several un-used
tickets in your pocket, which one will the barrier decide you want to use?


all c2c tickets seem to be "day" validity only, so that problem doesn't
apply here

tim