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Old April 25th 04, 12:14 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Level Crossings on busy lines

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Incidentally, the level crossing at Lincoln Road (Enfield) is closed to

cars
at nights and all day Sunday. I think the one in Park Lane near

Theobalds
Grove station might be as well.


Er, wouldn't there be more rail traffic during the day than at nights and
weekends, and therefore more need to keep the barriers down for longer
during the day? Or is it because there's also more road traffic during the
day as well.

If a brand new road is built these days, what are the guidelines about

level
crossing versus bridge? Are there any circumstances where level crossings
would still be installed these days?


The Lincoln Rd crossing being closed at night and weekends has something to
do with it being a former private rd (?) I've seen mention of it on hear
somewhere before (Google will probably be your friend). With the WARM
project there was a roomer that they wanted to replace it with a
electronically gated crossing of some sort, but it was decided to leave it
as it was. People had cited it was un safe - it is only 'un safe' if your a
pedestrian and you don't pay attention when on or about the crossing.

I can only think of 1 accident at that crossing, and if I remember it
correctly that was a mini that smashed through the gates one night when It
was closed. I don't know of any vehicle Vs train incidents there though.


The Lincoln road crossing is not very level - there is a 'hump' of about
5 metres (by eye - I can see the crossing from my house) which currently
makes it a blind brow - as the road narrows to single track through the
crossing and is constricted to single track on the eastern side by
residential parking, despite Lincoln Road being a very busy
through-route often used by articulated lorries, the amount of work
necessary to make the crossing safe for automated working would be huge,
involving compulsory purchase of parts of at least two properties and
the complete re-profiling of the carriageway height for a considerable
distance either side.

Although there is a good record for vehicle vs. train accidents, the
crossing is considered 'unsafe' due to the number of vehicle on vehicle
(and vehicle on surrounding solid object) incidents, there being several
a week of these. Often several a day... not necessarily on the crossing
itself, but on the approaches.
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Steve
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