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Old January 25th 15, 07:58 AM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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Default London Crossrail likely to work any better than Thameslink?

On 2015\01\24 18:45, wrote:
On Saturday, 24 January 2015 18:38:08 UTC, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\01\24 14:13, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:02:31 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message
-septemb
er.org, at 12:45:24 on Sat, 24 Jan 2015, Recliner
remarked:
given that Crossrail will run thru three different signalling systems,
integrate into the timetables of two franchises, and mix with local
and freight traffic, one can see it will present an operating
challenge.

Three franchises if you count HEx.

True, though the only tracks they'll share are in Heathrow itself, as
Crossrail will use the GW relief lines and HEx is on the mains.

My impression was that they wouldn't be doing much (if any) track
sharing with Greater Anglia between Stratford and Shenfield.

There will still be some in the peaks as Crossrail will still run some
trains into Liverpool St rather than in to the tunnels post 2019.


Will they not be sharing with South Eastern in the Abbey Wood area?


No as there will be two separate pairs of track to the north.


Thanks.

[utl added]

Were they drunk when they designed this branch? After Custom House they
should have had a station at City Airport (in King George V Dock), then
a surface station on the south side of the Central Way / Western Way
roundabout, then another at the Eastern Way / Carlyle Road roundabout,
then interchange at either Belvedere or Erith. By not having to build
and man an underground station in Woolwich 200m from the brand new DLR
station, surely this would have given a better benefit-cost ratio than
what they are doing, and solved the Thamesmead problem properly (which
an extra service away over in Abbey Wood just will not do).

The only East London interchange with the Jubilee in Canary Wharf is
terrible too. I see no indication that travelators are planned.

The Crossrail Website says there is safeguarding from Abbey Wood to Hoo
Junction. Is that just for overhead electrification or more tracks? And
why Hoo Junction of all places? Was this something to do with Boris Island?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossra...rt_of_services says that some
services west of Paddington will be transferred to Crossrail Ltd from
May 2018, and services east of Paddington will start in December 2018
(presumably turning somewhere out at Old Oak, because there is no
turning capacity at Paddington deep level platforms planned), but
through trains will not start until December 2019. So for the whole of
2019, Crossrail east and Crossrail west trains will be sharing track
from Paddington to Old Oak with the only interchange being up and down
escalators at Paddington! That can't be right!