On Wednesday, 4 March 2015 17:22:31 UTC, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 16:53:37 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Mizter T wrote:
IME the Overground timetable is not "frequently up the bloody spout".

Indeed, and at 95.5%, it has the joint second highest PPM (punctuality)
moving average of all the operators in the country. Its moving average
cancellation and significant lateness (CaSL) figure, a measure of
reliability, is also one of the best at 1.8% (only c2c, Chiltern and HEx
are slightly better). That's not bad, considering that it shares lines with
LU, freight and lower performing TOCs.

See http://www.networkrail.co.uk/about/performance/

Well if the statistics say its great then obviously I was just imagining
waiting 10-15 minutes for a highbury train on numerous occasions or waiting
*at* highbury for any train at all.

It should have remained a tube line. Linking it into the NR network was just
asking for problems. If it was a self contained tube line it could have had a
much better service frequency in the central section and since everyone thinks
closing the moorgate branch on thameslink was no big deal since everyone can
hope on the tube - the same logic applies, right? People from south london
could hope out at new cross (gate) and change.

1. It was an infrequent, slow "tube" line. Without the extra passengers gained by
extra destinations there'd have been no justification for increased frequency - new
routes open up latent demand.

2. If it was rebranded back to London Underground, it wouldn't magically speed up.
It's an old and slow route, quite similar to parts of the District Line really.

2. People wouldn't change in massive numbers at New Cross Gate - they didn't
to the old East London Line.

3. Even if they did, New Cross Gate station wouldn't be able to cope with that
amount of interchange (even after rebuilding is complete)

4. Capacity and number of services at London Bridge are very reduced until 2018.
Overground via Canada Water has become the common route for stations between
Norwood Junction and New Cross Gate. That's not just passenger choice - in the
peaks the London Bridge service to these stations is now next to non-existent. (There
isn't a single southbound non-Overground train at Sydenham between 16:20 and
18:20, for example.)

5. We've really done this one to death now, surely?