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Old April 25th 15, 10:14 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Clive D. W. Feather[_2_] Clive D. W. Feather[_2_] is offline
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Default DLR - no collision detect?

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d wrote:
Except the person who was killed fell on the track by accident apparently
12 seconds before the train ran over her. Unless the driver was asleep he'd
have had no problem stopping the train in time.


Is that so? It's not obvious: a main line train takes 90 seconds to stop
from 100 mph at the braking rates the signalling is designed for.

A 3-unit DLR train is 84 metres long. The braking system is designed for
0.6 m/s^2, so that means the train will enter the platform at 10 m/s and
take 16.7 seconds to stop. 12 seconds before that the train is doing
17.2 m/s and is 162 metres from the start of the platform.

Suppose someone was at the entry end of the platform and fell at that
point, the driver takes 1 second to react, and the emergency braking
rate is 1.2 m/s^2, then after 1 second the train is 146 m from the
platform and at 16.6 m/s. It will then take 13.8 seconds to stop and
proceed another 115 m. So, yes, in that situation it will work.

I'll let you do the calculations for other places on the platform.

However, will the victim be visible at 162 metres from the platform?
Particularly if there's a curve on the track.

Unless you're claiming that no train with a driver has ever managed to make an
emergency stop before hitting something or someone on the track in the entire
history of railways, then I think you'll have to concede that having a pair
of eyes up front is probably a Good Thing.


Will it be worth the cost? How much will it cost to add a driver to
every DLR train? If I recall the previous posting, we're talking about
one accident every 5 years and one suicide a year.

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