On 27/02/2015 16:52, Mizter T wrote:

On 27/02/2015 16:25, Basil Jet wrote:
I notice that the 125 bus has a new fleet of buses which look a tiny bit
like Borisbuses, but are not. Having spent all that money on designing a
New Bus For London, I imagined that it would replace all of the
double-deckers as they became life-expired, but it would seem not. Is
the Borisbus considered a failure? Have they stopped making them
already? Was it only ever going to be used in touristy areas, and if so,
why?

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Regarding the success or otherwise of the NBFL - well, despite some
assurances that all was now well, I think the issue of them getting too
hot in the summer - hence the Roastmaster nickname - is perhaps a
fundamental flaw in the design. They really aren't very pleasant when
it's hot, especially upstairs. Perhaps I'll reserve ultimate judgement
until this summer, but I'm not enormously hopeful.


Just to follow this up - they're still too bloody hot and stuffy. Yes,
yesterday was exceptional, but I didn't get on one yesterday - I have
got on them in recent days and weeks when the weather has been hot but
also just unexceptionally warm.

A friend could only stand it for one stop on Tuesday. If there's a
choice, in warm weather I'll choose a route served by another type of
bus that has opening windows! The forced air circulation systems on
other types of bus seem to do a better job too.

They might look good from the outside (though I grant that's a
subjective opinion) - but they fail in a very basic way in terms of
offering a pleasant or even adequate environment for passengers. And
that's being kind - they offer a deeply unpleasant sauna in summer months.

The bendy buses could get a bit too hot too - but not like this.