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Old November 27th 15, 12:46 PM posted to uk.railway,misc.transport.urban-transit,uk.transport.london
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 10:48:21 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:49:30 on Fri, 27 Nov
2015, d remarked:
"Software engineering" is another recent phrase. Its what used to be known
as programming

Programming is to software engineering as lathe operation is to
mechanical engineering.


LOL, yeah right. Thats like saying a surgeon is just the gut who makes the
incisions and ties some knots in string.


The hard bit was the clinical trials leading to that procedure being
approved.


And who do you think does the clinical trials on patients? Some guy on
jobseekers allowance from the dole office?

Having done all aspects of development through from writing user specs down
to programming, I can assure that the actual programming is by far the hardest
task, takes the most time and takes the most experience. Any eejit can knock
up a flow chart in powerpoint and do a high level functional spec as
barely qualified managers prove on a daily basis.


Paging messrs Dunning and Kruger.


Well isn't it odd how programmers quite easily transition over to management
but you almost never see the reverse happening even though contract coder
salaries can actually be considerably higher in a lot of industries?

Programming is a learnt skill, management is just common sense - any feckin
idiot who can speak in more than one syllable and can learn a few buzzwords
can do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPu_d4SSOPk

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