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Old November 29th 15, 12:06 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default No more walking up escalators at Holborn

On Sunday, 29 November 2015 12:59:55 UTC, Recliner wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:54:31 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 11:23:17 on
Sun, 29 Nov 2015, remarked:

I really doubt the capacity arguments: it may be true that you get more
people on the standing side than on the walking side as walking needs a
bit more inter-person space, but on the other hand the number of people
per second is greater. I wonder if they have really done any
measurements?

It would be trivial to measu just stand at the top of one of the
escalators that has for the duration of the experiment people standing
on one side and walking up the other, and count how many people step off
the top on each side in a fixed period of time. A minute would be plenty
long enough.

Could the result vary with the demographic of the users and the time
and location.


Of course. I'm going to suggest that the time and location we
concentrate on is "Holborn in the rush hours".


Already done:
http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/assets/snippets/workingpaperpdf/2002-11-01GoutamDutta.pdf

From page 28:

Conclusion
It is therefore concluded that:

* Passengers will not stand on both sides of an escalator simply
because they are asked to.

* When passengers do stand on both sides capacity is high but this is
only because the majority of passengers do not treat the left hand
side as a standing side.

* However, except for short periods of time, passengers will not stand
on both sides unless they are persuaded (such as through an
advertising campaign) to treat both sides as standing sides.

* If passengers could be persuaded to treat both sides as standing
sides, capacity would not be so high and, if the assumptions made are
correct, it would only be advantageous for high rise double escalators
and for corner A double escalators.

* To impose such a selective policy would be even more difficult than
persuading passengers to stand on all escalators and the benefit
gained would be minimal.


On all they need is a member of staff, preferably a unidexter, to ride up and down clogging the walking side.