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On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 14:29:10 +0000, Robert
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On 2016-01-01 12:05:50 +0000, e27002 aurora said:

On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 11:32:56 +0000, Robert
wrote:

On 2016-01-01 10:59:02 +0000, e27002 aurora said:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 04:37:11 -0600,
wrote:


In fact the creation of new names in modern times has been pretty
unimaginative. Look at those created in my lifetime, Victoria, Jubilee
(originally Fleet), Hammersmith & City and Crossrail. I think that Fleet
would have been a better name, especially as there have been 2 more jubilees
since Horace Cutler decided on the name.

Victoria is a fine name for a fine piece of infrastructure. It is of
the few good things to come out of the 1960s.

Apart from the Beatles, Alexis Korner and the Rolling Stones...



One is not sure encouraging indolence, rebellion, and the use of
health harming substances was an altogether good thing.


I knew you would reply along those lines - it's predictable! As for
indolence! The Rolling Stones are still strutting their stuff and they
are over 70..


ill you still be doing world tours at their age?


That is only a few years away for me. I may still be doing IT
contracts. Location is always where the work is.

Better, IMHO, if the New Elizabethan period was known for the music
Ralph Vaughan Williams.


Why? Good music is good music, whatever the genre.


Let's see what passes the test of time. I concede the Beatles show
signs of doing just that.



The name Jubilee, as I am sure you are aware, long predates its
British utilization. Better than name the route after a sewer.

The word 'Fleet' (also written as 'Fleth') in old lower German means a
small watercourse running into a larger river - it has nothing
whatsoever to do with sewers. The word is still used for streams
running into the Weser and Elbe in northern Germany and derives from
'fließen' - meaning 'to flow'.

The word was brought to England by peoples originating from, and
trading with, their homelands in that part of the world. And its
etymology shows that it derives from yet older lndo-European languages
- so probably just as old as 'Jubilee'.


Understood Robert. However, in London, the stream that starts @ the
pools of Hampstead and Highgate and flows to the Thames @ Blackfriars
is best remembered as the Fleet Sewer. Ione assumes it is now clean
again.

Hammersmith and City is an artificial renaming of part of the
Metropolitan, and is very awkward.

Er, the Hammersmith & City Railway (H&CR) was financed jointly by the
GWR and the Metropolitain Railway and opened in 1864. There is nothing
artificial about it.


Point taken. When I lived in London 40 years back, the H&C was simply
part of the Met. If TfL want to maintain the GWR connection how about
helping the longsuffering passengers and restoring the cross-platform
interchange at Paddington. Before the issue of crossing the 3rd and
4th rail tracks comes up, that could be avoided with a long single
track from Royal Oak to platform 16.


Have you heard about Crossrail? Many passengers to and from stations on
the GW main line will no longer have to change trains at all.

Point largely taken. But gWr will still be running trains on the
reliefs. An easy interchange for the Marylebone Euston Road alignment
would not go amiss. This is not something I expect to happen of
course.



Who knows what the completed Crossrail will be called. Meanwhile
Crossrail is not bad.

Crossrail.


BTW, why not disagree without being disagreeable. I would be the
first to admit to learning a great deal from you posts. I have no
reason to wish to offend. Calling me predictable because my tastes
are know is not needed. Happy 2016 to you.