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Old January 15th 16, 11:09 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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On 2016\01\15 21:50, Recliner wrote:[color=blue][i]
Robin9 wrote:

'Recliner[_3_ Wrote:
;153191']On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 18:26:44 +0100, Robin9
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;153065 Wrote: -
In article ,
(Basil
Jet)
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I was thinking about what a wasted resource the DC lines from Queens
Park to Euston are. A twin track railway to the edge of Central
London with only 3tph. But what to do with it?-

Surely the real pressure is to turf the suburban services out to
provide

more mainline and HS2 capacity?

Colin Rosenstiel-

Is diverting the service away from Euston via Camden Road
to wherever a feasible option?-

Wouldn't it be easier to simply replace the LO service to Watford
Junction with the Bakerloo? It might have to wait till the Bakerloo
gets new stock in a few years time, of course.


Certainly it would be simpler but would it be practicable?
I assume the Bakerloo Line is as overcrowded during rush
hour as any other Underground service. Would adding to it
the people who currently travel on the Overground service to
Euston be workable?


I thought the Bakerloo was the least (over) crowded of the LU lines?


We came back to the beginning of this thread: the DC lines to
Euston are an under-utilised asset. Abandoning the service does
address that issue.


I assume you meant "does NOT address"? That's true, but it does free up
the LO Euston platforms for other services.


What? Render 3.5 mile strip of twin track and twin tunnel derelict just
because of platform issues at Euston?

(Has a look at Quail)

Bloody hell. It seems the formation passing Camden carriage sheds is
only 5-track. It certainly looks as if there's room for 6 tracks, the
tracks just aren't there. What were they thinking? (We only run 3tph on
the DC lines, I suppose.) Was it 3tph when LO took it over?

However, platform space at Euston is rumoured to be not in short supply.
Had the approaches been 6-track, the DC lines could have easily
supported 8tph or so from a single platform, surely?

I'm tempted to suggest joining the DC line to the Batterware line just
south of Chalk Farm station, after the Batterware frequency has been
increased. It would get rid of the compromise height platforms between
Kensal Green and Stonebridge Park without losing any direct services
(although Watford High Street would have to be served by either Met
trains or deep tube trains, not both), and give DC commuters an easy
interchange at Camden to the Barnden line that they probably actually want.

I suspect Figure 2 here rules it out though.
http://www.sparpointgroup.com/news/c...e-under-london