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Old January 21st 16, 02:45 PM posted to uk.railway,misc.transport.urban-transit,uk.transport.london
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Default London Overground expansion

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:15:06 +0000, Someone Somewhere
wrote:

On 21/01/2016 13:34, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 05:10:59 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, 21 January 2016 13:12:35 UTC+1, Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 21/01/2016 11:15, aurora wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 09:40:50 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...nd-of-londons-
entire-suburban-rail-network-a3161586.htm

Sounds very ambitious.

What I don't really understand is the concept of "running services"
within London vs further afield when many of the trains will cross the
boundary. For example they mention GN and Welwyn Garden City, but does
this mean they'll only be transferring the terminators (which serve
Moorgate), rather than the Peterborough/Letchworth/Cambridge trains?

URL corrected, tiny URL added:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/tfl-to-take-command-of-londons-entire-suburban-rail-network-a3161586.html

http://tinyurl.com/gwzwmch

Xposted for wider audience.

This plan will not end well. It is a bureaucratic nightmare in the
making. Moreover, as TfL's budget is stretched quality will fall.

Better, IMHO, to add the county of Oxford and Hampshire to the list of
Home Counties, and have a Home Counties PTE.

We need the "London Passenger Transport Area" back.

No - we need a set of stations on the periphery of the London area where
the trains from the home counties terminate and then there is some
radical method of transportation in to the centre of London

Precisely the logic of 150 years ago. At that time the Euston Road was the periphery and underground railways were the radical new method.

Robin


The taxpayers and fare payers of the home county are responsible for
London's wealth creation. Their taxes and fares pay for the rail
networks, and then some.


Citation please?


Do all the bankers, financers, insurers, lawyers, et al who make the
financial center function live within the London Boroughs? I didn't
think so.

'm personally of the view it is impossible to
dimension a railway to cater for all the people who believe it is their
right to commute 50 miles each way every day to arrive just before 9am
and leave around 17:30. All with a guaranteed seat and a short walk to
their detached home in a leafy suburb.


But, more and longer trains can be provided. Better signalling could
hasten journeys. How about some comfortable seating. We would like
our catering facilities back also.



And are you suggesting people in London do not contribute to taxation etc?


No. But, they clearly do not carry the entire load.