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Old April 27th 16, 11:52 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
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Default Heathrow runway will create £16bn burden for TfL

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 20:50:55 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

Charles Ellson wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 16:51:12 +0100, JNugent
wrote:



I always thought the Highways Agency was in charge of those motorways,
not TfL; but putting that to one side it does look as if the majority of
the money will be going on public transport, which will then pay much of
it back through fares.

TaL is well-known not to have any say over motorways (thank God).

Not having direct control is not the same as not having a say. Also,
TfL inherited at least two motorways (A102(M) and M41) but these were
immediately re-classified as non-motorway special roads.


Was the Westway under TfL's (or its predecessor's) control when it was
still a motorway? There was a time when I commuted to work on it most
days.

The A40(M) is Westway, the M41 (now part of the A3220) was the bit
running down from it to Shepherds Bush roundabout forming part of the
planned West Cross Route.

The Pathetic Motorways version is :-
"So why isn't it a motorway anymore?
For purely political reasons. In 2000, all roads within Greater London
were transferred to a new body, "Transport for London" [which is
clearly wrong as most roads come under the burghs]. Unfortunately,
whoever wrote the legislation made an error, and TfL have no power to
be the authority in charge of motorways..."

http://motorwayarchive.ihtservices.c...t-cross-route/
says :-
"Following the formation of Transport for London (TfL), these roads
were reclassified in May 2000. This change was required because the
Greater London Authority (GLA) Act does not give the Mayor for London
powers to be the highway authority for motorways, but these roads were
being transferred to the Mayor. It was therefore necessary to remove
their motorway status before June 2000 when the Mayor took office. "
which doesn't seem to be a relevant reason rather than when TfL had
relevant powers vested in it.

The actual sequence of events might then be that legislation
transferred the motorways to TfL on the date that TfL was created but
between that legislation being passed and the creation day further
legislation removed the motorways from the process.